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Completed BSB51107- TAE40110 Next

It’s 6 weeks since my last blog and I must admit it’s just as long since I had a chance to come up for air and look at what’s going on in RTO World. I have completed BSB51107 Diploma of Management in the new format and my current project (nearly completed) is TAE40110 Certificate IV in Training and Assessment.

For BSB51107 I have learned from experience in delivering the qualification myself as well as from the feedback from my client RTOs. The new structure gives a lot more versatility because the assessments are not clustered. They are separate documents. The Learning Guide is a single document in a logical learning flow. That’s because there are overlaps between the units. Legislative requirements are covered in the first chapter because they apply to several of the units. For the rest of the Learning Guide there is one chapter per unit. My head right now is with TAE40110.

Since commencing development of the new resources to replace my old clustered course, I have delivered the course twice using some portion of the new resources. That involved a rather complex balancing act, as I needed to use the previous clustered TAE40110 course for the units I had not yet developed. However, it gave me a brilliant opportunity to trial the new resources and compare how they were received by the trainees in comparison with the clustered course. I should have everything ready to go in 2 weeks. My idea for this new version of TAE40110 resources is to enhance the versatility.

In an ideal world we would always choose a face to face workshop training environment as it enhances the learning outcome through discussion, informal questioning and sharing of experience. However we are in the real world and this is not always possible. The new courseware can be given to the trainee to work through self-paced with remote trainer support.

The problem with TAE40110 is that a Certificate IV qualification should take between 6 to 12 months, whereas the demand is to achieve it in the shortest possible time frame. I am delivering this qualification over 3 weeks (8 days) and that’s only possible because my RTO conducts a stringent training needs analysis. All my trainees are at least Cert IV level in their area of expertise when they walk in the door and they all have experience of delivering training.

I am requiring the learning materials to be read prior to the day of the workshop. This enables most of the assessment activities to be achieved during the workshops and works a treat. There is still some homework and trainees are warned ahead of time to cancel their social life for the 3 weeks of the course, but at the end of the 3 week course they can submit a complete evidence portfolio. This is proving to be a big selling point.

For my client RTOs who are waiting for more units in BSB40812 Certificate IV in Frontline Management, I am hoping to start these in 2 weeks. At the moment I have all of the core units completed plus the sustainability unit (which I only needed to “tweak” from the version I developed for BSB41412 Certificate IV in Work Health and Safety).

As you can see, I am “flat out like a lizard drinking”. If there are any experienced instructional designers who can develop quality resources please don’t hesitate contact me. I have a list of requests as long as your arm.

Unit by Unit Provides More Flexibility

Unit by Unit Provides More Flexibility for RTO’s

BSB07 Business Services Training Package Version 7.0 was endorsed by the NSSC on 5 December 2012.

I placed the highest priority on development of the resources for BSB41412 Certificate IV in Work Health and Safety .  Now that this is finalised (and a good number of clients – predominantly TAFEs – have already purchased them) I needed to re-group and decide on the next step.

As my existing clients will be aware, some time ago I developed clustered courses for BSB40807  Certificate IV in Frontline Management and also for BSB51107  Diploma of Management.  RTOs are still using these resources.  They are working well and have passed audit on a number of occasions.  However, BSB07 Version 7.0 has changes to both of these qualifications which will require some minor modifications to the resources.

In the meantime I made an “executive decision” that all my new training resources would be unit by unit – rather than clustered training and assessment.  Clustering is very efficient but it does limit flexibility and choice for my client RTOs.

So I have decided not to make modifications to the existing BSB40807 and BSB51107 resources.  What I have done is to reduce the price drastically from $4,000 to $1,500.  Once I have a full set of units for both qualifications I will remove these resources from the web site.

BSB40812 Certificate IV in Frontline Management only has one change in version 7.0 of BSB07.  The core OHS unit is now replaced with a new core unit BSBWHS401A Implement and monitor WHS policies, procedures and programs to meet legislative requirements.  If you are an RTO currently delivering the Frontline Management qualification then you will already have resources for all the other units but you will need resources for the new core unit.

For this reason, I have developed a full set of learning and assessment materials for BSBWHS401A. Samples are available on the web site.

BSB51107 Diploma of Management retains its code.  All of the units are electives but again, the OHS unit has been replaced with a WHS unit.  This is my next “cab off the rank”.  I intend to complete this unit by mid-February.

Sandy Welton

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    Demand is High for BSB41412 (Cert IV WHS)

    Well it certainly appears that there are a lot of RTOs who are interested in delivering the new BSB41412 Certificate IV in Work Health and Safety.

    Yesterday there were over 100 hits on our web site and I received numerous phone calls from RTOs all over Australia.

    I thought I would summarise some of the questions that the RTOs asked.  The first question related to time frame.  When is BSB41412 going to be up on www.training.gov.au?  I can only give the answer Eddie Hardman from IBSA gave me, as follows:

    BSB41412 went to the NSSC for endorsement on 6 December.  Eddie says he is 110% certain it will be endorsed with no changes, since the draft units have gone through a lengthy and detailed approval process.  He says that BSB07 Business Services Training Package version 7 is already on training.gov.au, but it is hidden until he receives the paperwork from the NSSC.  Then he says it’s just a case of “pressing a button” to make it viewable on the site.  He envisages no more than a couple of weeks.

    Several RTOs asked about equivalence with BSB41407.  Where there were 9 units previously there are now 10 – 5 core and 5 electives.  While BSB41407 is stated as equivalent to BSB41412, there are only 2 units that are stated as equivalent.  In other words you won’t be able to do a straight credit transfer.  It will need to be RPL.  This is the reason we have created simple, streamlined RPL tools that have a matrix at the back of the Assessor Guide, showing equivalence to units from BSB41407.  Where the full unit is equivalent, this is stated in the matrix.  I have also mapped all of the performance criteria, required knowledge and skills individually and this is also stated in the mapping matrix at the end of the Assessor Guide.

    In answer to the question “will we need to apply for scope”?  It is my understanding that you will.  This is a new qualification so we can assume that the normal process of application applies.  With regard to continuing to deliver BSB41407, I am sure there will be a teach-out period as usual.  This is something to check with your registration body.

    I was also asked whether there will be a new Diploma of WHS.  The answer is that all of the WHS levels will change.  There are a number of other qualifications that have also changed in this version of BSB07 so I suggest that if you haven’t done so it would be a good idea to visit the IBSA website.  All the information together with the qualifications and units can be accessed from the site.  This is the link: http://www.ibsa.org.au/training-packages/case-for-endorsement/bsb07-v7-case-for-endorsement.aspx.

    You can download the case for endorsement on this web page and it lists all of the new qualifications and units and also clarifies equivalences.

    Sandy Welton

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      BSB41412 Cert IV WHS Update

      IBSA put out a discussion paper on the proposed changes a couple of weeks ago and since then I’ve been in touch with IBSA to try and find out more.

      Originally this qualification was to be endorsed at the end of June.  Then it was delayed to 24 October.  Now the latest date for endorsement is 6 December but we are not holding our breath!

      They’ve also changed the code of the qualification.  It’s now BSB41412.  The 5 core units haven’t changed (thank goodness because we’ve already written the learning and assessment resources for these).

      The electives are in 2 groups.  3 electives must be selected from Group A and the other 2 may be selected from Group B.  The number of electives is greater than before.

      Eddie from IBSA has also sent me a mapping document indicating equivalences for people with BSB41407 Certificate IV in Occupational Health and Safety.  The qualification is stated as equivalent but not all the units are equivalent, so it looks like a straight credit transfer won’t be possible – which is what we expected and the reason we are putting together RPL tools as well.

      In spite of the delays, I still feel that it’s worth devoting our time to this qualification.  There are about 400 RTOs with scope for Cert IV OHS so we believe there should be a huge demand for resources once the qualification is endorsed.

      Let’s keep our fingers crossed that there won’t be further delays.  Sometimes I wonder whether we wouldn’t all be better off sticking to non-accredited training.

      Sandy Welton

      29 September 2012

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        So It Begins: Sandy’s Blog

        This is my very first blog on our brand new website and I should start by thanking Kevin Gardner for the wonderful job he has done – not just with the design but the way that he has set up key words so that our site is found easily on a Google search. (Kevin is on our Professional Network page – check the “About” button.) We’ve had a lot of fights about wording though – as the search engine requires us to repeat the key words over and over again – which you may have noticed!

        As a result of Kevin’s expertise and efficiency, we are now receiving enquiries for RTO resources from RTOs who previously didn’t know we existed. The majority of these are for TAE50111 resources and various BSB07 resources but we also expect that, as the new OHS Cert IV – BSB41412 – comes closer to endorsement, I will be receiving many more enquiries about our BSB41412 resources for learning and assessment and RPL. I expect to have all of the units for BSB41412 complete by the projected endorsement date in December. Currently all 5 core units have been completed.

        I am so pleased to see the TAE10 RPL resources finally taking off. The RPL tools for TAE50111 and TAE50211 were completed back in February, when it was first endorsed. Feedback I am now getting is “if only we had known earlier”. Assessors are really liking the “mentored RPL” approach. Assessors are giving feedback that these two Diploma qualifications do not lend themselves to a straight learning and assessment pathway. Unless you are an experienced trainer/assessor currently working in an RTO you have no chance of achieving TAE50111. On the other hand, even if you are an experienced trainer/assessor, you still should be given detailed guidance and support from a qualified assessor.

        As you may have noticed, it’s not possible to just click on a button and buy our RTO resources. I want to talk to you first. My professional standards are very high, and I only want to work with RTOs who have the same level of commitment to quality training and assessment. It’s also necessary to ask questions about how you deliver training and your methods of assessment so that I can determine whether the RTO resources will suit your needs.
        Thank you to all the people who have already contacted me and thank you also to our professional network partners who have helped us in so many ways.

        Sandy

        August 2012

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